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July 06, 2009

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John Woyke

I agree with the author. Executives (and even upper middle management) no longer have a stake in the system and that is a major factor in the decline of the system.

There are other factors, too, such as the inability to access surplus, the incredible complexity of the regulations, the use of too conservative assumptions in calculating liability, the tax on nondeductible contributions ... the list goes on. Just about every governmental intervention to "protect" employees has driven another nail in the coffin.

The original ERISA was balanced and carefully thought out ... many of the changes were necessary, but the result of the whole has been to make defined benefit plans unattractive to employers.

I think the whole systems needs careful re-analysis and I welcome initiatives to start this process

Lawrence Zeller

Wonderfully written, and painfully obvious, although it will never happen because of politics. Too bad.

Fred Munzenmaier

I have long said that this was one of the primary killers of DB plans.

I don’t agree with the author's side comments about bad actuarial assumptions, but I very much agree with his basic premise. When pay caps and 415 maximums came in I began to notice a distinct trend with my clients away from making the maximum tax deductible contribution to making the minimum required contribution. At the time, I figured it was part of some complex corporate tax strategy. But as time passed (and I became less naive), I began to realize the reason was far simpler – the corporate decision makers no longer had much of a stake in the qualified plan.

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